http://www.bloominglabs.org/index.php?title=Opendiscussion&feed=atom&action=historyOpendiscussion - Revision history2024-03-19T14:52:24ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.20.2http://www.bloominglabs.org/index.php?title=Opendiscussion&diff=515&oldid=prevDosman: I'm clearing this out as it's way old/outdated info. Stuff like this should be handled via email, may remove this page at some point.2011-05-05T20:14:07Z<p>I'm clearing this out as it's way old/outdated info. Stuff like this should be handled via email, may remove this page at some point.</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Use this as a community whiteboard, however actual discussions should probably happen on the mailing list.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Use this as a community whiteboard, however actual discussions should probably happen on the mailing list.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">What are you folks thinking about for funding this and what type of funding are you open too?  Membership fees, fund raisers, seeking out an investor, hacking the lottery? -- [[User:Deltaray|Deltaray]] 19:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I would like to see this be user supported by membership dues, however I think we're open to about anything to help reduce costs for everyone. I have a spreadsheet ([[Image:HackerSpaceCosts.xls]]) linked on the front page so that anyone can see what numbers we're looking at for the moment. Obviously variables like the final rent cost and other costs will vary the final amount, but with 10 members a rough shwag would be around $70 a month, 20 members and that can get down below $40 per member per month. Things like startup costs like rent-deposit I think we would look for donations (probably from ourselves). Also, and this should be discussed at some point, there could be some small fee-based services that could be offered like low-budget web hosting out of the space or other things that could help reduce costs. -- [[User:Dosman|Dosman]] 21:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">A few other ideas for funding here and there are:</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*Fixing things for people get them to donate or maybe just have a flat rate for the repair.</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*Maybe a monthly/annual sale of things that have been created at the hackerspace</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*Going to garage sales, finding cheap electronics things that can be resold or whatever. Like $1 items that could be fixed for cheap and sold for $20 or something.</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">There are lots of possibilities. -- [[User:Deltaray|Deltaray]] 17:15, 18 May 2009 (UTC)</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I agree, there are a number of avenues that can be pursued, those are good ideas. I'd also like to mention the issue with donations (as in hardware). Like you said, we don't want to end up with lots of junk being stored in the space. Another problem is that anything formally donated to a non-profit (and it turns out to be junk or unusable) needs to be disposed of in accordance with law. This may simply be keeping records that we threw it away or it may require donation to another non-profit in certain cases. Additionally, if the space ever comes to a close, everything owned by the non-profit must be donated to another non-profit. All I'm saying is that we need to be leary of accepting large amounts of stuff until we can get things formalized. Sadly, I do know where there are semi-trailers packed full of IU warehouse computers and electronics here in town ;).</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
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</table>Dosmanhttp://www.bloominglabs.org/index.php?title=Opendiscussion&diff=89&oldid=prevDosman: /* Funding */2009-05-19T15:24:37Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Funding</span></span></p>
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</table>Dosmanhttp://www.bloominglabs.org/index.php?title=Opendiscussion&diff=87&oldid=prevDeltaray at 17:15, 18 May 20092009-05-18T17:15:53Z<p></p>
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</table>Deltarayhttp://www.bloominglabs.org/index.php?title=Opendiscussion&diff=86&oldid=prevDeltaray at 17:14, 18 May 20092009-05-18T17:14:48Z<p></p>
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</table>Deltarayhttp://www.bloominglabs.org/index.php?title=Opendiscussion&diff=85&oldid=prevDeltaray: More funding ideas2009-05-18T17:12:15Z<p>More funding ideas</p>
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</table>Deltarayhttp://www.bloominglabs.org/index.php?title=Opendiscussion&diff=78&oldid=prevDosman at 21:26, 14 May 20092009-05-14T21:26:59Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>I would like to see this be user supported by membership dues. I have a spreadsheet ([[Image:HackerSpaceCosts.xls]]) linked on the front page so that anyone can see what numbers we're looking at for the moment. Obviously variables like the final rent cost and other costs will vary the final amount, but with 10 members a rough shwag would be around $70 a month, 20 members and that can get down below $40 per member per month. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Startup </del>costs like rent-deposit and other costs <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">we are open to open to discussion</del>. -- [[User:Dosman|Dosman]] 21:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>I would like to see this be user supported by membership dues<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, however I think we're open to about anything to help reduce costs for everyone</ins>. I have a spreadsheet ([[Image:HackerSpaceCosts.xls]]) linked on the front page so that anyone can see what numbers we're looking at for the moment. Obviously variables like the final rent cost and other costs will vary the final amount, but with 10 members a rough shwag would be around $70 a month, 20 members and that can get down below $40 per member per month. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Things like startup </ins>costs like rent-deposit <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">I think we would look for donations (probably from ourselves). Also, </ins>and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">this should be discussed at some point, there could be some small fee-based services that could be offered like low-budget web hosting out of the space or </ins>other <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">things that could help reduce </ins>costs. -- [[User:Dosman|Dosman]] 21:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
</table>Dosmanhttp://www.bloominglabs.org/index.php?title=Opendiscussion&diff=77&oldid=prevDosman: /* Funding */2009-05-14T21:21:40Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Funding</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>What are you folks thinking about for funding this and what type of funding are you open too?  Membership fees, fund raisers, seeking out an investor, hacking the lottery? -- [[User:Deltaray|Deltaray]] 19:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>What are you folks thinking about for funding this and what type of funding are you open too?  Membership fees, fund raisers, seeking out an investor, hacking the lottery? -- [[User:Deltaray|Deltaray]] 19:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I would like to see this be user supported by membership dues. I have a spreadsheet ([[Image:HackerSpaceCosts.xls]]) linked on the front page so that anyone can see what numbers we're looking at for the moment. Obviously variables like the final rent cost and other costs will vary the final amount, but with 10 members a rough shwag would be around $70 a month, 20 members and that can get down below $40 per member per month. Startup costs like rent-deposit and other costs we are open to open to discussion. -- [[User:Dosman|Dosman]] 21:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Deltarayhttp://www.bloominglabs.org/index.php?title=Opendiscussion&diff=48&oldid=prevDosman: /* Anything that doesn't fit anywhere else */2009-05-07T02:39:32Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Anything that doesn't fit anywhere else</span></span></p>
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</table>Dosmanhttp://www.bloominglabs.org/index.php?title=Opendiscussion&diff=47&oldid=prevDosman: New page: == Anything that doesn't fit anywhere else ==2009-05-07T02:38:50Z<p>New page: == Anything that doesn't fit anywhere else ==</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>== Anything that doesn't fit anywhere else ==</div>Dosman